Well now that nationals is over and we are talking about set-up for next year. (Already upset I missed this year, stupid law school.) I figure I should post these up for comment.
This is my e-manage ultimate tune with a K&N FIPK and Berk 3 inch exhaust with HFC.

The dyno was before and after the tune (the gains from the parts are already visible on the before tune). Also the dyno was done in 100 degree weather so that dampened some of the gains as well. This exhaust is right at the 100 db range and I will be getting a muffler or some solution



UMS Tuning in Phoenix did the work and said it was one of the stronger bolt on S2Ks they have seen, but that because DBW/Hondata gives more precise control of all the parameters including ignition/fuel the tunes for those cars normally show a marginally bigger increase. Either way with the emanage tune the 2005 is much closer to a tuned 06+ and feels like a very different car in the mid-range.

The one event I have done here in Tucson in the car with the tune had my times right around Random1 (also in the region). I have not really made to many setup changes from last time I posted my info besides setting the car a touch lower and corner balancing.

The car currently seems faster then I am so I just drive it. If I could make any changes I think it would be to increase spring rates, with the rear increase greater then the front. As in some sweepers it is just a touch pushy.

Does anyone want me to create a joint spreadsheet with people's setups on it? We can do it via pm/email to make it that the only way you can get access to the information is if you share as well. Also this could create a generic format so that as people update there setups it is easy to keep track of it.

 

Sounds good, as I stated in the Nationals thread, I would be happy to share my notes. I working with some well known builders. Something like this would be great to go over with them and get some professional feedback. Let me know if you need help, I have a ton of notes so far. With my setup, Im stuck with the rear shocks limiting me on suspension travel. Here was that info again, but use it as a base and not anything I would recommend to others at this point.

For Nationals we tried the following. (If not listed, its stock)

-08 CR delete
-New/Full Tread 255/40/17 Hankook RS3s Square on 17x9 Enkei PF01s
-Ohlins TTX Shocks on 700lb front/500lb rear springs. Shocks initially set in the middle of 25 clicks(12/12, 12/12) We tried adjusting but induced some push.
-Alignment, -2.8 Camber front, -2.4 Camber rear, 0 toe front, 1/8 toe-in rear, 7' caster
-Rear swaybar removed
-SPC upper ball joints
-Gendron 1.375 Front Sway set at 3/6
-Berk Header, Berk HFC, Flash Pro, Tune
-Modified stock exhaust (we did get tagged at 97db!)
-Full+ tank of gas
-No other weight mods

From here, We decided to make the following changes, toss this setup, and start over...

1. Most important ... more seat time. We plan to attend Blytheville and Nashville as well.

2. Lower the rear ride height slightly. I have no height #s, but we were higher than most at Nationals. Initially, we lowered the rear as much as the shocks would allow, but its still too high. We set the height of the front higher to compensate. To lower more, we have to modify the top perch of the shocks to allow for more suspension travel. We may have to work with the shop we bought them from on this as they already offered.

3. Increase the front spring rates. We haven't made a final decision on a number, but looking at the pictures from Nationals, the front has way too much nose diving going on.

4. Since we will need to re-align, we plan to add more rear camber.

5. Install the ball bearing mounts from Gendron we picked up at Nationals. This will make minimum differences.

6. Set the shocks at 0 and begin driving.



-Marc

 

Yeah... what they said! And even with all my traveling this year, I still need more seat time to get out of the mid-packers.

-Dave

 

That's what makes Nick's 2nd place, nearly winning Nats, so impressive. He just hopped in an unfamiliar car and drove.

I on the other hand, need as much seat time as I can get. I wasn't used to the surface, and I wasn't used to the additional power (I'm normally a mile high).

 

20% more power makes things interesting huh?

 

I debated moving to sea level the whole way home.

 

Ok, I have finished making the googledoc currently with my setup and the template form.

I know it is tedious having to type everything up but the googledoc has many advantages in doing it this way.

Through googledocs the information of everyone is viewable from anywhere and is always compiled/update.

If you want to get on the googledoc email/share list please send me a pm with some substantial info that way I know you are serious, and I also need you EMAIL ADDRESS without the email address I can not add you to the sharing list.

 

I'd like to strongly encourage people *not* to take this discussion offline to a restricted permission group. Doing so would defeat the entire purpose of this (and any) discussion forum, which is the sharing of information out in the open where others can benefit and contribute. What's a person who's new to autocross or new to the S2000 supposed to do if they don't know the secret handshake for the spreadsheet, or if they don't yet have a tested setup of their own to share? Pound sand?

The Stock setup FAQ has had 59051 views. Hiding the equivalent information for STR will just prevent thousands of people of benefiting from it, which will only hurt the car and the class.

 

Discussion and the like would still be visible here. If anything the sheet works as a quick reference to people's setups. For example if Josh discusses a handling problem, I can now, instead of digging through several 100+ pages to find his most recent setup I can easily pull up the document and look at it before making a comment here.

I do not want to move discussion from this forum, and the googledoc does not really allow that anyway. Instead the spreadsheet is simply an easy reference.

Also if people would prefer, I can put the link up either here or somewhere else and open up the security so that anyone can view it.

 

Here is my setup at Nationals:

Moton Clubsports
750 front springs/ 650 rear springs
1.250" hollow front gendron bar set 3/6
Rear MX5 bar
Ride height is about 12.75"F/13"R (about)
Alignment was -2.8F/-2.5R camber, max caster (about 7) and 0 toe front and 1/8" in rear
Full delrin busings, offset front upper control arm bushings to add camber
OS Giken differential
T1R 70R EM-Limited
Hondadata reflash
255/40/17 RS-3 on 6ULR wheels

I think that is all the info that would be needed. Always more than happy to share. Love to compare notes on cars so I think this is a good idea.