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Old Jun 24, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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Definitely, I have pictures of my car 3-wheeling over crests when in Stock trim. I do have my shocks droop-limited so they're 1" shorter than stock when fully extended.
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_pants,Jun 24 2010, 11:30 AM
Definitely, I have pictures of my car 3-wheeling over crests when in Stock trim. I do have my shocks droop-limited so they're 1" shorter than stock when fully extended.
Right - but 3-wheeling doesn't mean the shock is getting to full droop. We may be having a bit of a semantical discussion here, but what mine(and Nick's) point is what you measured as full droop in the garage with both front wheels unloaded is not an area of travel you will see on the street or any auto-x course unless it involves jumps Ken Block style

Your swaybar is limiting droop travel when you see it 3-wheeling, not the shock.
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 12:53 PM
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Not only would it have to be Ken Block style, he'd have to be at full lock which pretty much assures the total destruction of the car and self upon landing.
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by steguis,Jun 24 2010, 10:28 AM
I just got a S2k a month and a half ago (upgraded from a RSX Type-S) and autocrossed it twice so I can't really contribute much to this thread but just wanted to thank everyone for sharing their information. On that note, I just wanted to share that I'm running 17x8.5 OZ Allegeritas +63 offset with 255/40/17 star specs all around with maxed out front camber and rolled fenders and I have no rub anywhere.
Are you also on clubrsx.com?
I am a reformed Type S driver and now addicted to the S2k.
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_pants,Jun 23 2010, 07:59 AM
I have definite and very hard A-arm rubbing at full droop with the 949 wheels: https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showt...post&p=18989366

Anyone can check this by jacking up the front end and turning the wheels to lock either direction. Luckily this situation shouldn't happen very often but the possibility is there to screw up the wheels pretty bad if it does.
Are you sure you did not buy 17x10+52?!
Old Jun 24, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by piston_honda,Jun 24 2010, 05:24 PM
Are you also on clubrsx.com?
I am a reformed Type S driver and now addicted to the S2k.
Yes, same username. Used to run STX for a few years then as I turned it into a track car, ran SM for fun (and didn't have a choice due to mods) but ended up feeling like I wouldn't progress further as a driver if I didn't move to RWD eventually and so I switched. At least I'm still in the same family.
Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Random1,Jun 24 2010, 09:04 PM
Are you sure you did not buy 17x10+52?!
Shhh, don't tell anyone!

I fully understand your point about full droop. Ok guys, a little thought exercise here: Lets say you're cornering hard in a steady state, the front swaybar is limiting body roll and has effectively unweighted the inside front tire. Everyone would agree that the inside front shock is more extended than the outside front shock, right? Now the car goes over a crest. What happens? As both front tires drop a bit, the inside shock doesn't have to extend too much more to see full extension. The outside shock doesn't necessarily have to fully extend for the inside one to top out.

I work in the heavy-duty transit field; I've had this exact phenomenon happen with our suspensions and cause some undesirable side-effects. Granted, an STR S2000 has just a little () less roll/G-load than a transit bus, but we also have dramatically less suspension travel too.

What I really need to do is get off my butt and make bracketry to mount those shock position sensors I got over a year ago. Right now everyone (including me) is going off of gut feel without any data.
Old Jun 25, 2010 | 05:44 AM
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I don't think that you would be traveling at a high enough rate of speed to cause the front of the car to become airborne.... at full lock. The only thing you can do at full lock is park or doughnuts.
Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by TheNick,Jun 23 2010, 06:23 AM
Typical if people aren't running enough spring rate or are too low. You can do the same thing on the stock wheels and tires.
Or if you are running way too much rebound and jack down the suspension. I did early in the year at one event with a bumpy sweeper.
Old Jun 25, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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[QUOTE=captain_pants,Jun 25 2010, 09:24 AM]
I fully understand your point about full droop.



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