S2000 STR prep resource
Originally Posted by captain_pants,Jun 28 2010, 07:37 PM
Any thoughts on whether the J's S1 camber kit is legal for STR? It's not part of the control arm, it's effectively part of the hub.
SCCA rules for reference:
SCCA rules for reference:
Its an arm 'mount' and is therefore legal.
14.8.I
Camber kits, also known as camber compensators, may be installed.
These kits consist of either adjustable length arms or arm mounts
that provide a lateral adjustment to the effective length of a control
arm. Alignment outside the factory specifications is allowed.
Nothing official of course - but I have them on my car.
My co-driver and I just ran the RS3's for the first time this weekend, and we experienced the same thing... after the fact, we felt that the tire pressures we went with were way low (32-33)... next time we'll try higher, closer to 40... and after thinking the tires were too hot, doused them with some water, and the car fell off considerably... we ditched the water bottle and the last run of the day netted both of us our fastest times... these things seem to LOVE the heat... and it was damn HOT down here this weekend.
Still contemplating camber though... prolly need to go more aggressive there. What say ye on the camber Nick? Whats the window you're playing in? For this weekend we went with -2.3 in the front, and -2.5 in the rear... seemed to like it, but i also think we were also not running the right tire pressures, so we weren't getting the true feeling of the tires anyway.
All in all though, i'm happy with the tires...
Still contemplating camber though... prolly need to go more aggressive there. What say ye on the camber Nick? Whats the window you're playing in? For this weekend we went with -2.3 in the front, and -2.5 in the rear... seemed to like it, but i also think we were also not running the right tire pressures, so we weren't getting the true feeling of the tires anyway.
All in all though, i'm happy with the tires...
Originally Posted by ComposiMo,Jun 29 2010, 07:50 AM
My co-driver and I just ran the RS3's for the first time this weekend, and we experienced the same thing... after the fact, we felt that the tire pressures we went with were way low (32-33)... next time we'll try higher, closer to 40... and after thinking the tires were too hot, doused them with some water, and the car fell off considerably... we ditched the water bottle and the last run of the day netted both of us our fastest times... these things seem to LOVE the heat... and it was damn HOT down here this weekend.
Still contemplating camber though... prolly need to go more aggressive there. What say ye on the camber Nick? Whats the window you're playing in? For this weekend we went with -2.3 in the front, and -2.5 in the rear... seemed to like it, but i also think we were also not running the right tire pressures, so we weren't getting the true feeling of the tires anyway.
All in all though, i'm happy with the tires...
Still contemplating camber though... prolly need to go more aggressive there. What say ye on the camber Nick? Whats the window you're playing in? For this weekend we went with -2.3 in the front, and -2.5 in the rear... seemed to like it, but i also think we were also not running the right tire pressures, so we weren't getting the true feeling of the tires anyway.
All in all though, i'm happy with the tires...
Originally Posted by TheNick,Jun 29 2010, 07:18 AM
IMO
Its an arm 'mount' and is therefore legal.
14.8.I
Its an arm 'mount' and is therefore legal.
14.8.I
The knuckle/bearing housing/spindle assembly cannot be modified or replaced.

I sent in a letter asking for clarification. I think that they are within the intent of the camber kit allowances, since they only allow for lateral movement.
I went with the offset bushings in the upper arm to ensure legality.
On another note, the car will have fresh fender liners for Peru, as we killed the original ones before Blytheville. Man, I hate spending close to $300 on plastic pieces for the car... Hopefully this set will last longer.
+2 for -2.2 in the rear, got mine down to that and the car has been much better... but I can only get -2.1 up front... next step is camber kit, and a front bar and run someting similar to nick but I think a bar without the added camber would cause too much understeer as I am perfectly (for me) balanced at the stock 01 front bar, no rear bar and 700/600 springs. (im on dunlops and my car seems to like 38/32 f/r pressures with this set up and alignment.)
Originally Posted by BrianGT,Jun 29 2010, 10:44 AM
Yeah, I saw that, but thought that the legality is questionable due to 14.8.I.4:
and them being part of the hub:
I sent in a letter asking for clarification. I think that they are within the intent of the camber kit allowances, since they only allow for lateral movement.
I went with the offset bushings in the upper arm to ensure legality.
On another note, the car will have fresh fender liners for Peru, as we killed the original ones before Blytheville. Man, I hate spending close to $300 on plastic pieces for the car... Hopefully this set will last longer.
and them being part of the hub:
I sent in a letter asking for clarification. I think that they are within the intent of the camber kit allowances, since they only allow for lateral movement.
I went with the offset bushings in the upper arm to ensure legality.
On another note, the car will have fresh fender liners for Peru, as we killed the original ones before Blytheville. Man, I hate spending close to $300 on plastic pieces for the car... Hopefully this set will last longer.
Unofficially of course.
Originally Posted by TheNick,Jun 29 2010, 08:53 AM
IMO they are not part of the hub. They are a bolt-on mount for the lower arm. Just because they have two bolts that attach it to the hub vs just one bolt through the arm doesn't make them anymore part of the hub than they are part of the lower arm.
Unofficially of course.
Unofficially of course.



