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Old Jun 30, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by yellowdog
Josh, I'd be careful on this -- last weekend Banannie's beautiful CF intake shattered on a nasty bump and inhaled some of the pieces. Lots of smoke, but car seemed to be OK. Maybe she'll check in and let us know how it all worked out ...
The car is fine, thankfully Greg Fordahl seemed very unconcerned about the whole incident when I took the car in for him to check everything out (and he fixed the dang intake so it doesn't implode again!)

Thanks again Des for your help on site and letting me take one of my runs in your car!

Now to decide on Nationals codriver(s)...
Old Jun 30, 2011 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by chetly
Originally Posted by josh7owens' timestamp='1309434760' post='20734205

On a cool note the carbon tubing would flow better then the k&n tubing and the whole intake would weight around 3lbs vs. 10 lbs for the k&n one.


how so? the k&n is smooth on the inside. I dont see how airflow could get any better.

Yep, smooth as a silk. I don't think the K&N weighs 8-10lb's... but I certainly could be wrong. All the weight is in the box. However, I can't imagine the box weighing more than 4lbs.

As I'd said before, I'd just purchase some pre-preg carbon fiber, wrap the box, put it in the oven, and you're done. Not that hard... now I just need to find some money.
Old Jun 30, 2011 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by //steve\\
Would having a CR lip on my car put me out of STR? I was hoping the first post of this thread had info for what was and wasn't allowed but I didn't find that.
I think the problem with mounting the CR lip on an AP2 bumper is that the CR bumper comes with the holes pre-drilled already. Argument for not being legal is the fact that you have to drill holes on the AP2 bumper and therefore is not the same mounting procedure as factory/ factory manual.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by imstimpy
Originally Posted by josh7owens' timestamp='1308273636' post='20691137
We are both in ap1s but alot of ap2s are like that too. It's to transition fast and keep the rear wheels on the ground
There are more components to a course than just transitions, just like there are more suspension parts than the front bar. For argument's sake, you might find a super stiff front bar feels good but may not be faster than a softer bar that requires you to lead the inputs. The stiffer bar felt worse to me but was verified to be faster for both drivers. It wasn't in the slalom, either, it was the higher average speed through the sweeper.
This is what is I was referring to when I said to consider all of the course:
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?page_id=520
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by imstimpy
This is what is I was referring to when I said to consider all of the course:
http://www.rhoadescamaro.com/build/?page_id=520

Thats pretty cool! Perfect example of how power mods don't make that much of a time difference. It's all about grip
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Gumby
Originally Posted by //steve\\' timestamp='1309441855' post='20734503
Would having a CR lip on my car put me out of STR? I was hoping the first post of this thread had info for what was and wasn't allowed but I didn't find that.
I think the problem with mounting the CR lip on an AP2 bumper is that the CR bumper comes with the holes pre-drilled already. Argument for not being legal is the fact that you have to drill holes on the AP2 bumper and therefore is not the same mounting procedure as factory/ factory manual.
I believe the new rule is "any factory bumper may be used" So a CR front bumper with the holes for the lip would be legal, so I would think drilling the holes in the base bumper would meet the intent of the rule. The factory shop manual for the '08 would give you the instructions for installation, meeting one of the criteria for the new rule. I don't believe you can add an AP2 bumper to an AP1 or vice versa, due to other panels on the car being different.

Just my interpretation of the new rule.

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:

82 — 2011 SCCA NATIONAL SOLO RULES
1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehilcle


2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog for
that vehicle for normal highway use.

Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact replicas
(including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by zo7vette
Originally Posted by Blue Gumby' timestamp='1309466114' post='20736084
[quote name='//steve\\' timestamp='1309441855' post='20734503']
Would having a CR lip on my car put me out of STR? I was hoping the first post of this thread had info for what was and wasn't allowed but I didn't find that.
I think the problem with mounting the CR lip on an AP2 bumper is that the CR bumper comes with the holes pre-drilled already. Argument for not being legal is the fact that you have to drill holes on the AP2 bumper and therefore is not the same mounting procedure as factory/ factory manual.
I believe the new rule is "any factory bumper may be used" So a CR front bumper with the holes for the lip would be legal, so I would think drilling the holes in the base bumper would meet the intent of the rule. The factory shop manual for the '08 would give you the instructions for installation, meeting one of the criteria for the new rule. I don't believe you can add an AP2 bumper to an AP1 or vice versa, due to other panels on the car being different.

Just my interpretation of the new rule.

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:

82 — 2011 SCCA NATIONAL SOLO RULES
1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehilcle


2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog for
that vehicle for normal highway use.

Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact replicas
(including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.
[/quote]


I really don't see how you wouldn't be able to do the CR bumper on an AP1... its OEM on a US model of the vehicle. It's is no different than allowing it on an ap2. there are no body differences other than the bumpers and lights, so it would fit fine... and its the same make and model.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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actually the crash beam on the front of the ap1 if different then the ap2, to put a ap2 bumper on a ap1 it requires cutting the ap1 beam to make it fit.
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Do the fender liners and under tray interface between AP1 and AP2 bumper covers? Do those need to be swapped as well?
Old Jul 1, 2011 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by zo7vette
I believe the new rule is "any factory bumper may be used" So a CR front bumper with the holes for the lip would be legal, so I would think drilling the holes in the base bumper would meet the intent of the rule. The factory shop manual for the '08 would give you the instructions for installation, meeting one of the criteria for the new rule. I don't believe you can add an AP2 bumper to an AP1 or vice versa, due to other panels on the car being different.

Just my interpretation of the new rule.

F. Addition of spoilers, splitters, rear wings, bumper covers, valances,
side skirts, and non-functional sccops/vents is allowed provided that
either:

82 — 2011 SCCA NATIONAL SOLO RULES
1. It is a production part which is standard or optional equipment of a
US model of the vehilcle


2. It is listed in the vehicle manufacturer’s US accessory catalog for
that vehicle for normal highway use.

Parts must be installed as directed by the manufacturer. Exact replicas
(including weight) from alternate sources are also permitted.
Does this mean the CR wing would be legal on any s2000?
I'm assuming the problem would become that you could be protested for not using the reinforced CR truck.
(Differences noted here: https://www.s2ki.com/s2000/topic/863...nd-trunk-info/ )
I'm not sure those reinforcements to the trunk skin can be added after the factory. Obviously the little black reinforcements would be easy to add, but I'm not sure about everything else.



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