S2000 STR prep resource
Originally Posted by TheNick,Jan 19 2010, 01:22 AM
255/40
1st place PAX
1st place PAX
Since it's time to do brake pads on my S and I'll be running STR this year and for the the forseable future, what brake pads are poeple going to run?
I can get Hawk stuff through work at a good price, so I wasn't sure if I should run HPS, HP+ DTC-60/70's or a mixture of them.
Carbotechs have the AX6, XP8, XP10, not sure if i should run a mixture of them either. I don't do track days so i'm not sure if the XP10/XP8 that the track guys run...
Any idea's?
I can get Hawk stuff through work at a good price, so I wasn't sure if I should run HPS, HP+ DTC-60/70's or a mixture of them.
Carbotechs have the AX6, XP8, XP10, not sure if i should run a mixture of them either. I don't do track days so i'm not sure if the XP10/XP8 that the track guys run...
Any idea's?
Originally Posted by glagola1,Jan 19 2010, 08:24 AM
But.... there was very limited competition and I only went .6 faster than Jadrice in his B-Stock CR on Dunlops. So... it's not really a good bench racing data point. Sorry.
James Yom
Originally Posted by chetly,Jan 19 2010, 04:33 PM
Since it's time to do brake pads on my S and I'll be running STR this year and for the the forseable future, what brake pads are poeple going to run?
I can get Hawk stuff through work at a good price, so I wasn't sure if I should run HPS, HP+ DTC-60/70's or a mixture of them.
Carbotechs have the AX6, XP8, XP10, not sure if i should run a mixture of them either. I don't do track days so i'm not sure if the XP10/XP8 that the track guys run...
Any idea's?
I can get Hawk stuff through work at a good price, so I wasn't sure if I should run HPS, HP+ DTC-60/70's or a mixture of them.
Carbotechs have the AX6, XP8, XP10, not sure if i should run a mixture of them either. I don't do track days so i'm not sure if the XP10/XP8 that the track guys run...
Any idea's?
I hated the HP+ becuase they dust like crazy and squeal like a pig...
James Yom
Originally Posted by PilotSH,Jan 20 2010, 12:08 PM
I'm running OEM pads. ... The OEM brakes are horrible on the track because they fade so fast, but for autox they're acutally pretty good.
I hated the HP+ becuase they dust like crazy and squeal like a pig...
I hated the HP+ becuase they dust like crazy and squeal like a pig...
Originally Posted by Rodney,Jan 20 2010, 09:16 AM
i had the exact opposite experience. stock pads sux0r with R comp, and i found the hp+ much easier to modulate. yeah, they do dust up and squal occasionally, but they were so much better then oem, that i just deal with it. 

I don't left foot brake.
I seriously doubt for STR that you'll need pads that are more grabby than OE. Now, I don't have a lot of experience yet but I haven't had any problems locking the wheels and engaging ABS.
The first sign that you need pads with more bite is if you can't lock up the front wheels under braking. God help our competition of we can achieve that level of traction. I doubt the S2000's stock braking system will be found too weak for 255s on the grippiest surface. But... who knows? Maybe in the heat of summer and at some place like Peru, you'll find out you don't have enough pad.
There are no pads that offer substantially better bite and as good "cold" temperature performance as the stock pads. All pads that offer better bite are going to suffer some form of daily driving aggravation. They'll either dust more than OE (which is bad enough already) or they will make noise. It's not worth those problems when stock will most likely be enough on street tires.
I seriously doubt for STR that you'll need pads that are more grabby than OE. Now, I don't have a lot of experience yet but I haven't had any problems locking the wheels and engaging ABS.
The first sign that you need pads with more bite is if you can't lock up the front wheels under braking. God help our competition of we can achieve that level of traction. I doubt the S2000's stock braking system will be found too weak for 255s on the grippiest surface. But... who knows? Maybe in the heat of summer and at some place like Peru, you'll find out you don't have enough pad.
There are no pads that offer substantially better bite and as good "cold" temperature performance as the stock pads. All pads that offer better bite are going to suffer some form of daily driving aggravation. They'll either dust more than OE (which is bad enough already) or they will make noise. It's not worth those problems when stock will most likely be enough on street tires.
My .02 on pads ... unless you only race on concrete, stick with OEM. I experienced abs freeze mode more often with HPs. They would bite harder yes, but always seemed to engage the abs on asphalt, slick, or sandy surfaces. This caused more push and the inability to slow down. I learned not to use the brakes unless absolutely necessary (alot of pitching, lifting, and coasting). This is abviously going to be personal preference, so best to do some testing between the two and find what you life best.
My driving style is a bit different, so keep that in mind.
-Marc
My driving style is a bit different, so keep that in mind.
-Marc



