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Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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2000 and 2001 are the lightest but not by much. but that does not include the CR delete, they are either equal or slightly lighter, but we aren't talking about huge differences here
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Random1,Feb 22 2010, 06:52 AM
You can get under 2,700 somewhere (can't find my data) in stock class
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=235671
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by daverx7,Feb 22 2010, 08:25 AM
Josh,

Still no worries from me playing locally in STR... IMO, the more the merrier. With this being a place were STR folks are comparing setups and the results from it, I just wanted to make sure that people in this thread understand this. Especially with your weight being so good and you haven't done a lot of the common things to legally lighten it.

Man, it is getting close to autocross season in our neck of the woods... I can hardly wait.

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Yea, I saved $250 on a solid bar today by buying a used one from a member. So I'm getting ready. Even though we wont have our wheels yet but o well. I would be more then welcome to post on here al of the stuff I listed although it might be a while due to not having everything on the car yet.

I know you don't care, Thats how I feel about it. I know I won't be the only one
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by josh7owens,Feb 22 2010, 12:14 PM
...and nothing in the trunk. Even though now I have my omg light apr mirrors that (being sarcastic, they might be .5 each lighter but when I posted I ordered them someone was like "thats not str legal" even though it shouldn't matter were talking about a 1lbs of difference, everyone on here can out drive me and my mirrors are the wieght difference of me wearing belt or not...
Josh it is just important to understand that an illegal car (which yours is) is fine as long as your competition is aware of everything that doesn't mesh with the rules and is OK with it. Driving skill does not ever come into play. New autocrossers don't get a free pass to mod beyond the rules.

This thread is a reference for many who will be campaigning cars on a national level. Providing a weight as a reference on a car that would never pass tech at a major event is not really beneficial. If Dave hadn't clarified for anyone who hasn't seen your FS ads of trunk linings, etc... it could be very confusing.

Debating over whether rules "matter" is a dead end argument that doesn't belong in this thread. Does it matter for you and your car? Probably not. Does it matter when applied across the nation for everyone in a class? Big time. Rules need to be bullet proof. If there are any loopholes, you better believe they will abused.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Does anyone have any actual weights from a CR? The only one I have seen, is from the white CR that was being sold on SCCAForums, it said 2680 with a full tank, in AS (now BS) trim.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PedalFaster,Feb 22 2010, 11:40 AM
There has been a lot of controversy over those weights hasn't there? I know Marc has posted a few things regarding those in the past somewhere...

Either way - those superlight 2680lb AP1's will probably end up right back at 2650 or so because they'll be on heavier wheels/tires than Stock and they were all light on fuel. The early models with the plastic windows will save some weight too.

I do think 2600 is possible for my car - but it won't be a major goal of mine to try to get there.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:10 AM
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[QUOTE=marks_lude,Feb 22 2010, 08:59 AM] Josh it is just important to understand that an illegal car (which yours is) is fine as long as your competition is aware of everything that doesn't mesh with the rules and is OK with it.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zo7vette,Feb 22 2010, 12:01 PM
Does anyone have any actual weights from a CR? The only one I have seen, is from the white CR that was being sold on SCCAForums, it said 2680 with a full tank, in AS (now BS) trim.
Thats Marc P's car.

Its an AC delete model that is prob 50lbs lighter than other CR's.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by josh7owens,Feb 22 2010, 10:10 AM
snip...

I do wish someone would make a faq though. 51 pages of mixed answers is alot of stuff
Working on the FAQ. It's a lot sift through. I should just go from memory and let everyone comment on it to fill in the holes. I should have something for review by the end of the week.
Old Feb 22, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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My 2000 AP1 weighed 2690 in AS trim with only an exhaust and a heavy Comptech FSB. I would expect that you could get it down to sub 2600 with some work. But I'm just guessing.

Hey, has anybody figured out how to tune this chassis yet? I'm chasing my tail.



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