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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianGT,Apr 6 2010, 12:53 PM
-2.0 front, -2.1 rear with zero toe all around.

Once I am able to get offset bushings for the front arms, we will try more, as our front camber is maxed out, and the rear is at the minimum setting.
As of last weekend I’m currently at
Front:
850lb/in
1.5” bar
-2.5 degrees
Zero toe

Rear:
700lb/in
No bar
-2 degrees
3/16” toe-in

Rear alignment numbers were before I lowered it another 0.6” in the back… so… a little more camber and a little less toe-in. Maybe I’m weird, but I think the car rides pretty nice on the street like this.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:07 PM
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another thing I found in the supplements:

SEAT BELT RECEIVERS
Seat belt receivers integral to stock seats do not have an allowance
for deletion and must be maintained if replacement seats are installed.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreyenga,Apr 6 2010, 04:05 PM
As of last weekend I’m currently at
Front:
850lb/in
1.5” bar
-2.5 degrees
Zero toe

Rear:
700lb/in
No bar
-2 degrees
3/16” toe-in

Rear alignment numbers were before I lowered it another 0.6” in the back… so… a little more camber and a little less toe-in. Maybe I’m weird, but I think the car rides pretty nice on the street like this.
My AP2 would simply not turn at all if I was running that set up. Crazy.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreyenga,Apr 6 2010, 04:05 PM
As of last weekend I’m currently at
Front:
850lb/in
1.5” bar
-2.5 degrees
Zero toe

Rear:
700lb/in
No bar
-2 degrees
3/16” toe-in

Rear alignment numbers were before I lowered it another 0.6” in the back… so… a little more camber and a little less toe-in. Maybe I’m weird, but I think the car rides pretty nice on the street like this.
Yeah, we have less spring rate, 450F, 550R at 23" front ride height and 23.25" rear. I hope Guy is able to make the front offset bushings soon.

Stock '01 rear bar, Saner front bar, swapping to the Gendron bar before the next event.

What kind of clunking noises do axles make? Our car makes noises sometimes in the rear, but I attributed them to the OS Giken diff.

Time to buy new fender liners, as our passenger one came off the car last event, and the driver side one is about to fail.

The Hankook tires look good so far, 85 runs on them so far, and wear isn't too bad, especially considering my wife's co-driver Jay Parcon likes to drift the car sometimes.

-Brian
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by glagola1,Apr 6 2010, 01:28 PM
My AP2 would simply not turn at all if I was running that set up. Crazy.
The car is HORRIBLE on the first lap on Hankooks right now, but after they get a little heat in them, the balance feels good. It’s certainly fair to describe the current balance of the car as ‘tight’ but mid corner or corner exit, the limit of the rears isn’t far behind the front and I can easily induce yaw if I need it. But for the first time now I can consistently keep the throttle flat and steer through transitions without the back-end of the car blazing its own path.

I think it would be a worth while experiment to run some more toe-in in the back and throw the rear bar back on. I have no idea what I’m going to have to do to the setup once I put a wing on the car.
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:05 PM
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Took a good bit to scrub in the Hankooks too.

Good luck at San Diego!
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreyenga,Apr 6 2010, 01:05 PM
As of last weekend I’m currently at
Front:
850lb/in
1.5” bar
-2.5 degrees
Zero toe

Rear:
700lb/in
No bar
-2 degrees
3/16” toe-in

Rear alignment numbers were before I lowered it another 0.6” in the back… so… a little more camber and a little less toe-in. Maybe I’m weird, but I think the car rides pretty nice on the street like this.
Holy... a 1.5" bar AND 850lb springs?! Seriously, I agree with a post above... how do you get it to turn?

I just bought a set of Tein SRC's with 900lb... I was planning on going back to a stock front sway. I have a Gendron currently...but it weighs a chit-ton. Maybe it would be a good idea to keep the Gendron just for the 6 way adjustability...
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jreyenga,Apr 6 2010, 05:02 PM
The car is HORRIBLE on the first lap on Hankooks right now, but after they get a little heat in them, the balance feels good. It’s certainly fair to describe the current balance of the car as ‘tight’ but mid corner or corner exit, the limit of the rears isn’t far behind the front and I can easily induce yaw if I need it. But for the first time now I can consistently keep the throttle flat and steer through transitions without the back-end of the car blazing its own path.

I think it would be a worth while experiment to run some more toe-in in the back and throw the rear bar back on. I have no idea what I’m going to have to do to the setup once I put a wing on the car.
Jim, I'm concerned you'll be giving too much away in sweepers... let's hope not!
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by glagola1,Apr 6 2010, 04:28 PM
My AP2 would simply not turn at all if I was running that set up. Crazy.
You never tried it with that little camber out back. If I remember correctly you started at 2.6 and still haven't backed it off much. I keep telling you man...
Old Apr 6, 2010 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianGT,Apr 6 2010, 03:53 PM
I hope Guy is able to make the front offset bushings soon.
Last I spoke with him, he thought they'd be in stock by the end of April. So, not much longer...



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